Curse

Cuilan · Jan 25, 2010, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Jumping on someone who doesn't agree with you doesn't show much thought.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jan 25, 2010, 09:22 PM // 21:22

/signed

If they are rarer, it might actually take effort/money for destroyer weapons.

Regulus X · Jan 25, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

I say /sign nerfing all solo farmers in every way possibly imaginable. Ow8, Anet already did!

*grabs a bag of fresh popcorn, maps to random farming outposts and waits to see the blue dots on radar decrease drastically*

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 25, 2010, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Regardless of how little they're worth now, it is disappointing to see gems pop out of an end chest. If they were rarer and worth more, it'd be better, but it's more fun getting golds. Perhaps make it so that in places where the chest drops more than one item, only one of them can be a gem.

Eragon Zarroc · Jan 25, 2010, 10:05 PM // 22:05

/signed, limit to possibility of only having one drop.

cognophile · Jan 25, 2010, 10:05 PM // 22:05

/unsigned

SC nerf hammer is coming anyway, as Regulus points out.

MisterB · Jan 25, 2010, 10:37 PM // 22:37

SEARCH exists.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...=dungeon+chest
Suggestion summary: Remove diamonds and onyx from all chests except Slaver's Exile.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/e...=dungeon+chest
Suggestion summary: Remove diamonds and onyx from all dungeon chests.

And last, this thread is basically a match for the suggestion here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/l...=dungeon+chest

Quote:

Please either reduce the drop rate for onyx or diamonds, or at least guarantee that a maximum of one gemstone can drop from a dungeon end chest.

Marvel-Kid · Jan 25, 2010, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

/unsigned

For several reasons. First, not everyone has lots of money and all their destroyer weapons already. Those people may very well be farming dungeons hoping to get double gems, or at least the single. I know when I was working on filling my HoM I was happy to get a double gem drop. Second, the only reason the gems are cheap at the traders is because there are a lot of them. People who use them for making destroyer weapons enjoy this fact, and reducing the amount being found will raise the cost of them. Third, dungeon rewards are not there to make people money. Although not directly, this idea seems to be asking Anet to raise the minimum wage for working at McDonalds. "Gems are cheap, so I don't want to get so many" is basically what I hear, and although not asking for rare golds in exchange, that is exactly what will drop (or tomes). Lastly, the only reason I see you asking for this change is because you want more profit from doing dungeons. Dungeons are not there to provide profit. They do provide some monitary rewards for sure, but the point of them is to have fun, work on the titles, and tell the game's story.

Gems are what? 100gl at the trader? I you cant afford that, dont even attempt to fill HoM... Not for a while at least...

Totally /signed!!!

The only thing more aggravating than a gem drop is not being able to...idk rupt meteor shower. xD

Saph · Jan 25, 2010, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regulus X

I say /sign nerfing all solo farmers in every way possibly imaginable. Ow8, Anet already did!

*grabs a bag of fresh popcorn, maps to random farming outposts and waits to see the blue dots on radar decrease drastically*

Funny, since I clearly stated "farming Raven's Point with a few friends".

And MisterB, I did a search and nothing popped up for me. ^^

Thenameless Wonder · Jan 25, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03

/signed

Good idea

HawkofStorms · Jan 26, 2010, 12:05 AM // 00:05

/notsigned

This game should not be about getting gold as fast as possible. If you are only doing something for the dungeon reward and not the enjoyment of the experience... why are you playing.

animal fighter · Jan 26, 2010, 12:34 AM // 00:34

/undecided

550+ speeclear runs of Shards of Orr and only got one BDS. fix drop rates, and nerf speedclear at the same time would be good though.

those 550 runs took ~20-25 minutes average. I've done the dungeon many times without speedclear and it's taken ~2-3 hours.

550 runs for one BDS at ~2-3 hours a run is lol. speedclear is the only option with drop rates like those.

but I will /sign for drop rates in general. not saying make them every run or something. but at least a 3-5% chance. it would give SOME incentive for 'regular' groups to do dungeons.

Tenebrae · Jan 26, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

This game should not be about getting gold as fast as possible.

Because if they limit to only 1 gem per drop slot or lower its rate suddenly the ENTIRE game becomes a race about getting gold , sure pal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

If you are only doing something for the dungeon reward and not the enjoyment of the experience... why are you playing.

Yeah right , no one in GW plays for the rewards/titles .... they all do it for fun. Seriously , you take a grain of sand and turn it into a desert.

Lortext · Jan 26, 2010, 01:39 AM // 01:39

/signed

If chests drop a rare material (diamond/onyx) and some other item much like how the Deep/UW/etc chests work.

UnChosen · Jan 26, 2010, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by animal fighter

/undecided

550+ speeclear runs of Shards of Orr and only got one BDS. fix drop rates, and nerf speedclear at the same time would be good though.

those 550 runs took ~20-25 minutes average. I've done the dungeon many times without speedclear and it's taken ~2-3 hours.

550 runs for one BDS at ~2-3 hours a run is lol. speedclear is the only option with drop rates like those.

but I will /sign for drop rates in general. not saying make them every run or something. but at least a 3-5% chance. it would give SOME incentive for 'regular' groups to do dungeons.

Exactly. The fact that SF and 600/Smite is (probably) getting ruined gives even more incentives to fix the ridiculous drop system because people can't hide behind the "but SF abuser will get infinite gold in one day" argument anymore.

In fact they need to apply this to every area in the game.

P.S. The funny thing is that 550 runs x 3 hours is over 1500 hours...far longer than most people's total guild war play time. A lot of people only have about 1500 hours after 4 years of play...If I'm going to spend that much time getting an optional cosmetic upgrade I might as well be playing a korean grinder RPG.

Gennadios · Jan 27, 2010, 08:49 AM // 08:49

If ANet got off it's ass and nerfed dungeon running closer to when it started, gems may have been worth the drop.

This thread is just complaining about the loss of the status quo, unfortunately, the status quo shouldn't have existed in the first place.

Once the 'ol 600 gets the nerf bat, maybe they'll jump to about 800g in price and will end up worth the gold slot.

Nachtkult · Feb 03, 2010, 01:28 PM // 13:28

/signed for the same reasons posted above. That's really frustrating.

dr love · Feb 03, 2010, 01:49 PM // 13:49

/signed

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

/unsigned
First, not everyone has lots of money and all their destroyer weapons already.

ANY OTHER DROP is better than a diamond or onyx.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Third, dungeon rewards are not there to make people money. Lastly, the only reason I see you asking for this change is because you want more profit from doing dungeons. Dungeons are not there to provide profit. They do provide some monitary rewards for sure, but the point of them is to have fun, work on the titles, and tell the game's story.

when i think of dungeons, i think of epic adventure with my party that rewards me in terms of story and loot. as it stands these dungeons are nothing more than shite title grind. if dungeons weren't required for legendary master of the north, there would be close to zero activity in them.

Turbo Ginsu · Feb 03, 2010, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I've noticed of late that Doomlore has been getting more and more empty, even with the nerfs coming.. Why? Because ppl are sick of zero worth dungeons..Run, party or otherwise.

/double signed